Saturday, March 13, 2010

question

Is it wrong or right that I sometimes feel like I'm striking a blow for women everywhere when I'm slightly immodest at BYU?

Here's the thing. I go to BYU. There's a dress code, which I generally respect and see the purpose of. The dress code is also a little bit more difficult for women to negotiate than men, because since when did a boy have to worry about 'extremeness' in his appearance? What, like, extremely high Converse? Short shorts that society wants him to wear? Is this a basketball game in 1973? Exactly.

So women usually operate on a little different of a scale. There is Type A, the badly-dressed very modest girl. She wears things like flowered knee-to-calf length skirts and straightens her hair with fierce determination. She isn't 'cool.' Hipsters look down upon her.

On the other side of things we have Type B, the well-dressed trendy girl. She probably has good hair that is slightly relaxed/cut in a hipster-lookin' way. As with people who follow the Style of the Time, there is sometimes a need for her to wear skirts that might distance themselves above the knee. She walks flagrantly through campus in this manner, hoping that other people are only listening to the Arcade Fire.

So I guess I'm saying, why do we use things like this to divide groups of women from each other? Does the dress code help bridge gaps between women who wear different clothes and who might see each other with different labels, or does it separate people even further? When will the hipsters stop their judgin'? Isn't it slightly justifiable for someone who is 5'1 like me to not wear the skirts of the 'Nun or Dead' length?

I unno.

6 comments:

  1. This is an interesting insight, Liza. I always just get really annoyed by the dress code, and feel some what talibanized by it. You've made me see some other aspects of it. Though I've never yet been able to articulate what I think about this.

    All you ladies are so freakin smart. It's really hard to keep up with you.

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  2. You and your concrete descriptions! One of the many reasons you are a fab writer.
    I wonder about the BYU dress code/FTSOTY guy'dlines (hahaha get it ok sorry). Here are my two conflicting feelings--Why bother pretending you are giving boys and girls a comparable set of guidelines? Obviously whatever crap we have to hear about wearing modest clothes so as to not "tempt" members of the opposite sex to have dirty thoughts are directed solely at women because, let's face it. If a dude is wearing a very low-cut shirt, that's just kind of gross. The stuff that For the Strength of the Youth talks about is all about "sending messages", and I know that men send messages with their appearances too or whatever, but if we're being real "sending messages" with our appearances is what ladies are brought up to do.
    However, if we accept that the "be modest!" thang is just for ladies, maybe it's ok. Maybe it is freeing to just not feel like we have to be sexy all the time and can just wear flowery summer dresses over modest white t-shirts with black clog mary janes all the time instead....

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  3. There is some bad grammar up there. I'm sorry.

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  4. i really like the idea of not always having to feel sexy or even attractive or even clean. this sort of brings us back to earlier discussions on this blog of sexual access to women's bodies and lifestyle choices: the ideal is choice. i think.

    the whole modesty thing is responsive to men and their relentless visualness.

    remember that myth when artemis, virgin goddess of the hunt, is bathing in secret with her ladies and actaeon sees her and she turns him into a deer and his own dogs hunt and kill him? kinda my favorite myth.

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  5. also: it's neither wrong nor right, to answer your question.

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  6. i wonder if this notion of "extreme styles" was a response to the sartorial impulses of both male and female students in the '80s at byu, which was my era there. it was a more androgynous overall and men, i think, back then did more stylistic boundary pushing back then than i think they do now. i don't know if this one is still on the books--but there used to be a rule against men (only the men!) going sockless--extreme style? you decide. "extreme" is a slippery term, so subjective, relative and problematic.

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